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Luna and Pals by trivialtales Luna and Pals by trivialtales
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Here's a painting I've been doing on and off for a while now. I finally feel like it's finished. It's acrylics, ink, and a sparse final layer of watercolor and colored pencil on a 17 x 20 illustration board.

This is all of the characters who matter in the comic right now. There will be more, but these are the main ones right now. Some have only been in one or two comics so far.

I'm thinking of using this as a front page on my site, or an eventual book cover. What do you think?
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lythre114 Featured By Owner Mar 6, 2013  Student General Artist
Its not really my thing, but the style is pretty interesting.
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trivialtales Featured By Owner Mar 6, 2013
What is your thing?
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ElectricGecko Featured By Owner Jul 20, 2011
The colours are vibrant and still kind of macabre! I love it.
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trivialtales Featured By Owner Jul 20, 2011
I thank you, good sir.
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vanilla-vanilla Featured By Owner Jul 19, 2011
Hey! This is good stuff!
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trivialtales Featured By Owner Jul 19, 2011
Thank you, sir.
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erosarts Featured By Owner Jul 19, 2011  Professional Traditional Artist
This would make a pretty sweet cover. For some reason I am particularly drawn to the smoke coming off of dad's cigarette in the corner. Also, the expression on Luna's face in this painting is especially manic. I mean scary manic. Which is EXACTLY what I think she's probably like.
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trivialtales Featured By Owner Jul 19, 2011
Yeah, I don't envision Luna as the type of person who is really safe to be around. Her passion for life can overpower and shorten other, weaker passions for life.

Thank you. I'm thinking of trying the whole self-publishing thing after I get a little bit past 100 pages. Mostly for the life experience junk.
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erosarts Featured By Owner Jul 20, 2011  Professional Traditional Artist
If you want to print in color, I'd seriously think about doing something shorter than 100 pages, because printing 100 is going to be a little pricey, which leads me to believe more people will just simply go, "He wants HOW MUCH for his book?" Until you've reached celebrity status, it's best to avoid giving folks sticker shock, I think.
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trivialtales Featured By Owner Jul 20, 2011
Yeah, I just checked it out on Lulu. Even at 80 pages its way expensive. That's not good, because I feel like the color in my comics is a necessity.
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erosarts Featured By Owner Jul 20, 2011  Professional Traditional Artist
If you get a collection done as a comic (saddle stich) the cost to you isn't bad as. But a lot of places have a minimum order requirement. The downside of this is that you carry an inventory (which means you're out of that money until you can sell some copies). The upside of this is that you always have a "portfolio" you can hand people who might be interested in your work and/or hiring you. Which is what a lot of my pin-up compilations and Penelope mags have been used as. I hope to be able to the same thing with "Apsinthion Protocol" and "Dreamlands" and "TWOW" stuff someday soon.
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trivialtales Featured By Owner Jul 20, 2011
Do you print and sell through an online publisher, or do you get them printed somewhere else? This kind of stuff is a bit overwhelming to me.
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erosarts Featured By Owner Jul 21, 2011  Professional Traditional Artist
Up until the quest for the new printer started (these guys I'm looking into right now respond immediately when they're trying to sell you their services, and sporadically once they're on the project, apparently, and it's killing me), I had been using Ka-Blam and ordering 50 - 100 of each issue at a time (which is about all the inventory I care to have on hand at once). So far everything I do is distributed locally and directly by me, and on-line by me. Indyplanet carries a few of the titles, but really, they don't make any effort to sell your work, so that works about as well as offering prints on DA, because I'm positive only 1 out every 5 million or so users has ever purchased one. And I'm talking about ONE. If you find a publisher, obviously, they do some marketing work for you, but I'm so fed up with that process, I just can't take it anymore.

The big problem with making a living with art is not the "making art" part. It's not even the "making good art" part, it's about selling your work somehow. It's what prevents people who are really passionate about creative processes from making a decent living doing them. They need to care more about the business side of the industry, and they just can't, which is what makes them artists instead of businessmen to begin with. It's a double edged sword. The BIG mystery for me, is how to specifically target people who are looking to spend money on what they're searching for. Because searching and views do not correlate to sales as directly as you might think.

Also: I've read quite a bit on the subject of making a living on web-comics, and the thing the guys who do it have to say in common is this: you don't make a living producing the comic. You make a living selling merchandise with your characters on it, and advertising space next to your comic; even the printed version won't sell enough to make you any real money (which I can vouch for).

Anyhow. If you want to hear me ramble on more about this junk you can e-mail me at erosarts@earthlink.net
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trivialtales Featured By Owner Jul 22, 2011
I've not really approached the publishing process aside from curiously typing information into publishing sites to see how much I'd be paying. That's probably evident in the way I talk about publishing. I'm sure that approaching it would not be enough to deter my love of comics as an art-form, or my desire to release my own in book format (cause they look so cool), but I haven't really tested those boundaries.

You're right. The creative process is a difficult thing to move into the realm of saleability, because the first of those two things feels so much more important and relevant. I've thought about offering ad-space and merchandise through my site, but as far as I know, about four people ever visit it, so I'm looking at about a $17 potential profit.
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